Top NBA trainers Phil Handy (Los Angeles Lakers) and Rico Hines (Sacramento Kings) discuss two elite point guards who've stood out for their growth and break down what makes them so special. Go inside the making of Kyrie Irving and De'Aaron Fox, in Episode 4 of our "Real Talk" series.

Click here for Episode 1, in which they share their approaches to training players while in quarantine.

Click here for Episode 2, in which they talk about Los Angeles' popular basketball scene.

Click here for Episode 3, in which Here's Episode 3 of their chat, in which they share their experiences training Pascal Siakam, who has become one of the NBA's brightest young stars.